Davidi am not a racist.
close (arm if necesary) the border, deport illegal aliens here (all of them regardless of race), and re-examine the immigration process as it exists. no amnesty.
i am not a racist. it is becoming a favored tactic of the pro amnesty, elimination of the border crowd to label anyone opposed to unlimited movement of latinos illegally into the US as racist.
let’s take a better look at their motives, and at the reasons i oppose them.
anyone who is not familiar with the concept of aztlan, or the reconquista needs to google those terms and become smart on those topics now, before the issue is decided for you by others.
anyone besides myself notice that the overwhelming majority of supporters for amnesty also happen to be chicano? hmmmm let’s see, maybe they are simply trying to increase their own voting block? they’ll claim that latinos are doing the jobs that americans won’t do (that’s a lie, i swept and mopped my workspace yesterday). and make no mistake. they are latino, overwhelmingly mexicans who comprise the illegal alien group in the US. so why not deport the illegal mexicans and import say, phillipino workers? mexico is rich in comparison to the phillipines, i’m willing to bet phillipinos would do the same jobs as mexicans, for lower pay. why shouldn’t we have them instead? really, what’s the difference?
racism. the predominance of the persons campaigning for amnesty of illegals are doing so for racist reasons. they are mexican-americans, campaigning for amnesty of mexican nationals illegally in the us.
you don’t hear much from them about the oh, 50K illegal Irish citizens illegally in the us. but when confronted, they’ll just say sure, give amnesty to them too.
let’s see. 50K out of 11 million.
what if we are to say 50K irish, and 50K mexicans get to stay? all other mexicans out? what about chinese, thai, and somalis?
but let’s look at my reasons for desiring to kick out illegals.
1 they’re ILLEGAL! say what you want. someone who purposely breaks the law to enter this country has set a bad example right from the start. if we are a nation of laws, then ‘to thine own self be true’. if we don’t deport illegals, what consequence is there to ever stop someone from entering the nation illegally again? none. reagan set the precedent. he granted amnesty, and set the condition as never again. and look what’s happening. 11 million foreigners trying to say what we as americans can and cannot do in the us.
2. they’re not paying taxes. that’s right. i typed it. the no borders crowd will point at sales tax. that’s just disingenuous. they pay no income tax. they don’t contribute to social security. there are so many taxes they do not pay. and this also goes along with number one. they’re dodging taxes too.
3. strain to our health care system. the vast majority of us citizens have health insurance of some kind. those who do not commonly go to emergency rooms for health care. so they are straining our emergency room care system by taking advantage of the loophole guranteeing them healthcare at any emergency room in the us. further, examine the stats for persons uninsured and the numbers of illegals in the us. our health care system would become that much cheaper without the endless lines of illegals holding sick babies in emergency rooms across the us.
4. jobs americans won’t do. LIE. when the poor (american citizens) complain about not being able to get a job as a janitor/landscaper any longer, it’s not me that’s taking their job. so the argument isn’t that americans won’t do the job. it’s that illegals will do it for less. and by less, i mean they’ll do it for no health care. the predominance of companies hiring illegals don’t carry federally mandatory things like workers comp. they get hurt, bye! and off to the emergency room they go. no retirement, no paying in to social security. no 401k. no week off for vacation a year. it’s not that americans won’t do the job, it’s that they demand to be treated like a citizen, within the law, to do the job.
5. who the hell are they? we have no idea who comes into our nation. muderers fleeing justice in costa rica? china? russian mobsters? if we control the borders we can stop the illegal entrance of those with violent tendencies at the border. think russian mob. ms-13. la cosa nostra. triads.
6. slavery. i saw a special on 60 minutes, or some news show, about the slave trade in women inside the us. that’s right. girls are lured into the us, and forced into prostitution. and it’s not like the girl gets to keep part of the money either. she works for subsistance. and they’re predominantly latinas. and this happens because they have no recourse to the law. amnesty? they are here illegally. a legal migrant has the ability to pick up a phone and call the police when confronted by pimps. to run away and ask the police for help when she can get out of a brothel. to point out an illegal brothel/slave house and be protected. illegal immigration fosters underworld activity.
7. starting out. how much do illegals pay to coyotes? a lot more than a first class ticket to ellis island. legal immigrants won’t have to pay 10-70K to coyotes to smuggle them into the us. those are just numbers i’ve heard on the news. now imagine, they drop say, 5K on a first class ticket to ellis island, and have all of that money left over to start out with. and that money ISN’T in the hands of coyotes, who are a criminal element themselves. they fly coach and they have even more money to set themselves up with and get started.
first, we have to take control of our borders. if we do not, they will just come right back. why wouldn’t they? it starts at the border. without postive control of our borders, ANYTHING we do has no effect if we do not seize control of our borders. then we have to begin deportations. don’t worry, all of them will not be gone overnight. we’ll have time to allow people to legally migrate here and replace them. we can control where those people come from.
yeah, i said that too. it is dangerous to allow such a huge group of nationals from one country into the nation at the same time. any viable state exists only because it’s population owes allegiance to it. mexicans do not owe allegiance to the us. they march down the streets waving mexican flags. not the stars and stripes. we need to diversify where the migrants come from. not just mexico.
death to aztlan.
control the border. fine heavily, any corporations hiring illegals. begin deportations. increase the number of slots for immigration from all over the globe. re-open ellis island.
I agree, if you’re an illegal – you should (or be forced) get out. My only other option is mandatory military service (and not just for them but for American citizens too).
My mother is an resident alien, but she’s legal and she legally gets every benefit that Americans get (except the right to vote).
Now if you look at Canada, they’d let anyone in (and you can over to Canada or vice versa from Montana), in fact several of the 9/11 terrorists came to the United States through Canada. But in the next 10 years, you’ll need a visa or a passport to gain entry to either Canada or Mexico.
But that won’t help curb the entrance of illegals at all… unless you arm the border. In fact, if you check youtube.com and type in Mexican Army, you can see two videos from FNC, where there is a video of Mexican soldiers crossing into the United States. That is basically a declaration of war, isn’t it? Why isn’t the military responding to this? Gr.
I like Bush, I really do. But this guest working program will not work and the threat of military service will force most of them back to their country and the remaining into the military.
and those green cards are highly sought after, too! every time I get on the internet here, I am offered the chance to enter the lottery for a green card to goto te USA, land of opportunity. so there are plenty of people willing to queue for a chance to come. screw the people who just go without legal authorization. times have changed, this is the 21st century (so don’t, Gus, take up the Aztlan chant that all caucasians are illegal immigrants since 1492), they can go back to Mexico, or Honduras, or Costa Rica, or China, or Ireland, and work to improve their own country while they wait in line to come to America just like everybody else.
“aztlan”
i had never heard of that. very interesting. are you really worried about us eventually ceding several of our states to Mexico?
“im willing to bet phillipinos would do the same jobs as mexicans, for lower pay. why shouldnt we have them instead? really, whats the difference?
racism.”
Really? I was thinking maybe it was just a matter of airfare.
“you dont hear much from them about the oh, 50K illegal Irish citizens illegally in the us.”
Should that surprise us? The issue is strictly being drawn on our southern border.
I haven’t developed much of an opinion about this whole thing, myself. Yet it seems to me that, for now, it is a tug-of-war between 2 groups in the Repuglican party: the rich fucks and what I’ll call the “nationalists”. And I’m more on the side of the Nationalists. Enforce the laws already on the books, even if business owners whine about it.
Jen said:
“But in the next 10 years, youll need a visa or a passport to gain entry to either Canada or Mexico.”
You already need a passport to get into the US from Canada.
i so totally agree with enforcing laws on the books. congress is rapidly becoming the UN. they pass resolutions, but don’t enforce them. at least not in some terms.
reconquista gus. learn the term, love it. aztlan will not be gained by cession. far fetched now, but do the trend analysis. what will the demographic makeup of the border states be in 30 years? now think about 15.
That’s not true trick… it’s 2007 is when this law will be put into effect and the next year after you won’t be able to get back into the US w/o one. Plus do you know where all these illegals are at? Oh, right you don’t!! They could be Mohammad the Terrorist for all we know. We can’t afford anymore f ups.
In the next 50 years, half of Texas’s population will be Mexican-Americans. Is that right? If it’s done legally, yes. I think anyone and their mother should come here if they come here LEGALLY.
The system we currently have is too complex by the way.
From CBC News
Canadians without a passport will be barred from entering the United States after Dec. 31, 2006, unless they have a special U.S. “laser visa” border crossing card that includes a fingerprint or other “biometric identifier” such as a retinal scan. Those cards are issued mostly to Mexicans who want to enter the U.S.
Currently, Canadians and Americans are able to enter the United States with little more identification than a driver’s licence or a birth certificate, though a passport has sometimes made it simpler to satisfy immigration officers at the border.
Ok, Jen, maybe so. I just know that for my last 2 trips to Canada and back in the past few years, they gave me one stern-ass warning about not having my passport or original birth certificate. I took the hint the first time and they were happier with me the second time. Maybe they’re just getting us ready for the 2007 deadline.
“Now if you look at Canada, theyd let anyone in (and you can over to Canada or vice versa from Montana), in fact several of the 9/11 terrorists came to the United States through Canada. But in the next 10 years, youll need a visa or a passport to gain entry to either Canada or Mexico.”
You are a liar. NO 911 terrorists came from Canada. They didn’t have to. The U.S. welcomed them with open arms. Go pedal your lies to some other bunch of morons, fuckwit.